From: "Jeffrey" Subject: Re: 5-16-07 - The American Bahai Mixture - William Garlington. The Bahai Faith in America. Date: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:13 PM On May 17, 9:13 am, Viv wrote: > Mr Glaysher, > > Since you are quoting William Galrington with approval would you care > to answer a couple of simple questions? Namely - > > Your friend Nima Hazini ("Wahid Azal"), who describes you as a "man > of > integrity", claims that Mr Garlington is a paid agaent of the Baha;i > administrative order carrying out its instructions in what he does > and > writes. Do you agree with him? > > Your friend Nima Hazini ("Wahid Azal"), who describes you as a "man > of > integrity", has claimed, and never retracted the claim, that I am > William Garlington posting here under a pseudonym as part of that > work. Do you agree with him? > > Your other friend Jeffrey the Righteously Indignant says that you are > a man committed to openness, dialogue and understanding. Will that > extend to your answering these simple questions? > > Viv. Dear Viv, As I recall, Nima said at one time that the Orthodox Baha'is were paid agents of your administrative order. That is certainly not true. People can tolerate one another without adopting the other's views and even without being friends. This is a mature approach towards disagreement. You use the word "friends" as if it were some kind of dirty word. I am certainly indignant. I think you would be too if you were harassed in the same way that I have (and other Orthodox Baha'is have). I realize that I do need to find a way to get past my anger. ("God teacheth that conflicts and disputes are not allowable, not even with Satan himself." Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 275). I guess I need to fight this spiritual battle. As for righteous indignation, I think you are trying to belittle my anger against your organization by suggesting that I believe myself to be so morally upright that I am unfairly judging your organization. Once again, I feel that you are attempting to attack and belittle me rather than address the substance of my gripes. Can you deny the facts of shunning and cult-like paranoia exhibited by your organization? Can you deny that your organization is not tolerant of alternative views than their own on the subject of the Covenant and the succession of Guardians? Of course, you cannot deny this. Therefore you attempt to belittle me with innuendo. If the term "righteous indignation" is not an attempt to belittle my anger then what? Are you are actually admitting that my anger is justified? Regarding Frederick's failure to respond to you, I believe that he feels vulnerable from the attacks against him, and since your words are designed to hurt and minimize him (or would you have us all actually believe your questions are designed to open up a real dialogue with him?), there is no good reason for him to respond to you. A real dialogue would address the substance of the concerns and gripes raised by him. I have never seen anyone in your organization attempt to address any issues any of us have raised, other than to attack the person who raises them. Jeffrey